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ICAHN ENTERPRISES L.P. (IEP)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q4 2024 was mixed: total revenues were $2.6B and net loss narrowed to $98M ($-0.19 per LP unit), with Adjusted EBITDA at $12M; indicative NAV fell $223M q/q to $3.34B as CVR Energy declined, partially offset by a $292M uplift in Real Estate from signed sale agreements and a move to fair‑value estimates .
  • The Board maintained the quarterly distribution at $0.50 per depositary unit; liquidity remains robust with $1.4B cash at the holding company and $915M at the funds, positioning IEP to pursue opportunities and tender actions (e.g., CVI) .
  • Energy segment EBITDA declined year over year on weaker crack spreads and lower throughput; refining margin per throughput barrel fell to $8.37 vs $15.01 in Q4 2023, while renewable margins improved and nitrogen fertilizer pricing was mixed .
  • Real Estate valuation methodology changed with signed asset sales; management expects the real estate transaction to close by end of Q1 2025, contributing to quarter NAV dynamics and future cash realizations .
  • Consensus estimates from S&P Global for Q4 2024 were unavailable at time of analysis; no beat/miss versus Street can be assessed with confidence (S&P Global consensus data unavailable).

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Real Estate segment value increased by $292M driven by signed sale agreements and a shift to fair‑value methodology for remaining assets; GAAP equity held steady while indicative value better reflects market conditions .
  • Renewable margin improved to $0.79 per vegetable oil throughput gallon (from a loss of $0.90), supported by lower cost of sales and a stronger BOHO spread .
  • Liquidity and “war chest” preserved: $1.4B holding company cash and $915M fund cash; Board maintained the $0.50 distribution, underscoring capital flexibility while pursuing activism and selective tenders .

What Went Wrong

  • Energy EBITDA declined to $99M vs $204M in Q4 2023; refining margin per barrel fell to $8.37 vs $15.01 on weaker crack spreads, unfavorable derivative/inventory valuations, and reduced throughput .
  • Indicative NAV decreased $223M q/q, primarily due to CVR Energy (-$286M), Viskase (-$57M), and cash distribution (-$71M), partly offset by Real Estate (+$292M) .
  • Automotive lagged again; a significant tenant exited certain locations (early termination payment $42M), and management continues remediation with normalization targeted by H2 2025; Aftermarket Parts exit substantially complete by end of Q1 2025 .

Financial Results

MetricQ4 2023Q3 2024Q4 2024
Total Revenues ($USD Billions)$2.696 $2.791 $2.558
Net Income (Loss) Attributable to IEP ($USD Millions)$(139) $22 $(98)
EPS per LP Unit ($)$(0.33) $0.05 $(0.19)
Adjusted EBITDA Attributable to IEP ($USD Millions)$9 $183 $12
MarginQ4 2023Q3 2024Q4 2024
Net Income Margin (%)-5.2% (=$(139)/$2,696) 0.8% (=$22/$2,791) -3.8% (=$(98)/$2,558)
Note: Margins are computed from cited revenues and net income (loss).

Segment and Operating KPIs (Q4 2024 vs YoY/QoQ):

Segment/KPIQ4 2024ComparatorChange / Comment
Energy EBITDA ($M)$99 $204 (Q4 2023) Down YoY on crack spreads and throughput
Refining Margin ($/bbl)$8.37 $15.01 (Q4 2023) Down on weaker crack spreads, derivatives/inventory
Renewable Margin ($/gal)$0.79 $(0.90) (Q4 2023) Improved on lower costs and BOHO spread
UAN Gate Price ($/ton)$229 Prior year level implied; -5% YoY Down 5% YoY
Ammonia Gate Price ($/ton)$475 Prior year level implied; +3% YoY Up 3% YoY
Real Estate Adjusted EBITDA↓$5M YoY Q4 2023Lower single-family home sales
Food Packaging Adjusted EBITDA↓$6M YoY Q4 2023Mix shift, lower pricing; efficiency upside post-capex
Home Fashion Adjusted EBITDA↑$2M YoY Q4 2023Lower material costs, improved manufacturing
Pharma Adjusted EBITDA↑$1M YoY Q4 2023Higher prescription growth; program advanced
Indicative NAV ($B)$3.337 $3.560 (Q3’24) Down $223M q/q
Distribution per LP Unit ($)$0.50 $0.50 (Q3’24) Maintained
Holding Co. Cash ($B)$1.397 $1.566 (Q3’24) Solid liquidity
Cash at Funds ($B)$0.915 $0.800 (Q3’24) Higher q/q
Investment Fund Net Long (%)22% (35% ex refining hedges) 2% net short (24% ex hedges) (Q3’24) Increased exposure

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
Distribution per LP UnitQuarterly$1.00 (Q2/Q3 2024; reduced at Q3) $0.50 (Q4 2024) Maintained at reduced level
Automotive Segment OutlookH2 2025N/AManagement anticipates normalization by second half of 2025 New qualitative timeline
Real Estate Asset SaleBy end of Q1 2025Exploring sales (Q3) Signed agreement; closing expected by end of Q1 2025 Firmed timeline
CVR Energy Dividend (Portfolio holding)Near-termCVI cut dividend amid weak cracks (Q3 commentary) Management cites improving crack spreads and potential SRE relief ($300M+ liabilities) Potentially positive medium-term backdrop

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q2 & Q3)Current Period (Q4 2024)Trend
Energy/Crack Spreads & CVIQ2: Wynnewood fire; lower cracks; CVI dividend $0.50; litigation good news on SRE . Q3: cracks softened; unplanned outages; CVI cut dividend .Cracks improved off lows; tendered 878K CVI shares; hopeful SRE resolution could remove $300M+ liabilities .Improving fundamental backdrop; potential regulatory relief
Automotive TurnaroundQ2: cost cutting, leases in pipeline; multi‑year margin target; industry headwinds . Q3: operational challenges, management changes; lagging results .New permanent CEO; tenant exit payment $42M; marketing sites; normalization targeted H2 2025; aftermarket parts exit by end Q1 2025 .Remediation progressing; normalization timeline set
Real Estate StrategyQ3: exploring sale of Nashville land; lower adj. EBITDA YoY .Signed property sale; moved to fair‑value valuations; +$292M in segment value; closing by end Q1 2025 .Monetization accelerated
Investment Fund ExposureQ2: net short 16%; ex refining hedges net long 13% . Q3: net short ~2%; ex hedges net long 24% .Net long 22%; ex refining hedges 35% .Increasing net long
AI Demand (AEP)Q3: AI‑driven data center demand tailwind .Reiterated AI demand tailwind at AEP; ROE improvement narrative .Consistent emphasis
Food Packaging ModernizationQ2/Q3: capex plan being developed; waste reduction needed; lower margins from mix/price .Efficiency opportunity remains; impact expected post capital plan execution .Ongoing; execution pending
Regulatory/Legal (SRE)Q2: positive litigation update D.C. Circuit .Anticipated favorable resolution under new administration .Potentially constructive

Management Commentary

  • “We ended the quarter with $1.4 billion of cash and cash equivalents at the holding company and an additional $915 million of cash at the funds… we have a significant war chest to take advantage of opportunities as they arise.” — Andrew Teno, CEO .
  • “Energy segment EBITDA was $99 million for Q4 ’24 compared to $204 million in Q4 ’23… refining margin per throughput barrel was $8.37 compared to $15.01 in the prior year quarter.” — Ted Papapostolou, CFO .
  • “Our Real Estate segment increased $292 million in the quarter… due to a sale of certain properties, which led us to fair value the remaining assets.” — Andrew Teno, CEO .
  • “We are intensely focused on our activism strategy… we have the ability to tender for entire businesses, a tool most simply do not possess.” — Andrew Teno, CEO .

Q&A Highlights

  • Hedge fund net exposure increased to 22% net long (35% ex refining hedges); management opportunistically adjusts refining hedges with crack spread moves .
  • Real Estate valuation jump was driven by ~$200M increase from properties under sale agreement and ~+$90M broad reappraisals; GAAP book no longer reflected fair value .
  • Automotive: significant tenant exited some sites; early termination payment of $42M; plan to re‑tenant locations within 24 months; aftermarket parts exit substantially complete by end Q1 ’25 .
  • Follow‑up on prior quarter hedge positioning deferred to post‑call; no additional specifics provided on exact timing of exposure changes .

Estimates Context

  • S&P Global consensus for Q4 2024 EPS, revenue, and EBITDA was unavailable at the time of request due to data access limits; therefore, a beat/miss assessment versus Street cannot be made with confidence (S&P Global consensus unavailable).
  • Investors should monitor updates to Street estimates following the Real Estate valuation change, Energy margin trajectory, and Automotive remediation plan.
MetricConsensus (S&P Global)Actual
Revenue ($USD Billions)Unavailable$2.558
EPS ($)Unavailable$(0.19)
Adjusted EBITDA ($USD Millions)Unavailable$12

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Liquidity and capital optionality remain strong; maintaining the $0.50 distribution while preserving a “war chest” supports ongoing activism, tender offers (e.g., CVI), and segment turnarounds .
  • Real Estate monetization is a near‑term catalyst: signed sales and fair‑value remeasurement boosted segment value; closing expected by end of Q1 2025, with potential to translate into cash and NAV support .
  • Energy earnings should track cracks and throughput; any favorable SRE resolution (>$300M liabilities) would be a material tailwind to CVI’s risk profile and dividend capacity over time .
  • Automotive turnaround is execution‑driven: new CEO, site re‑tenancy, and aftermarket parts exit by Q1 2025; normalization targeted by H2 2025—watch monthly KPI progress and margin trajectory .
  • Food Packaging needs capex to modernize and reduce waste; margin/mix challenges continue until initiatives are funded and executed—limited near‑term EBITDA relief .
  • Fund exposure has shifted meaningfully net long (ex hedges); alpha depends on catalysts across top holdings (SWX, AEP, CZR, IFF, BHC/BLCO) and activism toolset, with AI demand cited as structural tailwind at AEP .
  • Short‑term: trade around Real Estate closing, Energy margin prints, and any CVI updates; medium‑term: thesis hinges on capital deployment into undervalued assets, segment remediations, and activism‑driven value creation .

Sources: SEC 8‑K and press release for Q4 2024 results and consolidated financials ; Q4 2024 earnings call transcript for segment details, liquidity, and management commentary ; Prior quarters Q3/Q2 2024 for trend analysis .